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We start the third hour by having a conversation with an NFL writer for the athletic.

He is in his 27th season covering the NFL. He is a pro football Hall of Fame

selector, as well as a professional football writer of America board member, co-author of the

Football 100, the story of the greatest players in the NFL. Of course, I'm talking about Mike Sando.

Mike, it is great to have you back. How you doing, Mike?

I'm doing well. Thanks for having me, Jim.

Always good to have you, Mike.

So we could start in a number of places, but let me start with the 49ers.

They were missing Christian McCaffrey, yet they still hammer the Jets on Monday night.

Let me ask you about the Jets. How did Aaron Rogers look to you in his first full game in 20 months. And what happened to that allegedly

vaunted Jets defense? I thought Rogers looked really good all things considered.

You know, we really weren't sure what to expect if he'd even get through a game or be able to

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