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What's up Hunter?

How are you doing Joe?

I'm doing good now that we're actually live.

She feels more formal.

We're just talking about how crazy some of the people in Brian Callin's past have been.

What is it like doing his show, man? You guys, you're like a co-host.

You keep him on the level.

Well, yeah, so I mean, what happened was that a a couple of years ago Brian and I were talking

about books and Brian had just started doing his podcast at that point and you know he was sort of

of interviewing strippers a lot of strippers or like porn stars or like you know

mama guys and that was fine but you know I was like Brian if you enjoy these

books so much why don't we get on some of these professors and he was like

really like professors would talk to me and I said well you

know what are your download numbers and you know he told me them and then I went off and I lied to the

professors and like doubled or tripled them. How dare you?

That's a way to do it though.

Yeah, and then you know as a result they were all like that's great because if you're a New York Times best

selling author you usually have an audience of three and so if you have a chance to like actually reach a decent number of people

then yeah you're gonna come on this weird podcast you're like I've heard of

podcasting what is that why not right and so we started getting all of these professors and academics and

scientists and all that stuff on and you know that's sort of being the journey and

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