All right, man. We're live.

Awesome. Thanks for having me, man.

Thanks for being here.

Yeah, this is cool. Any friend of Duncan's, a friend of mine.

Likewise, likewise, it's cool.

It's fun.

Dude, okay, so I have to ask the opening question.

What the fuck is it like being the son of Timothy Leary?

The opening question, right? It has to be. Okay, that's cool. Yeah, man, you know, and you know, you know, that the answer to the question kind of it's it's changed a lot over the course of time obviously you know because when I was younger

When I was a kid you know really up until my mid-20s even my late 20s I would say like I didn't know how to answer that question how could I it's just all I knew was just life you know it's just my dad it's just how I grew up you know

He would take me to little league and make sure I did my homework or didn't do my homework in my case, but whatever it was, you know what I mean?

It just was life.

I didn't have any objectivity to it.

I didn't have any distance from it.

I couldn't be remote from it.

You know, I didn't know like that it was

perhaps really strange. And then, you know, he died in 96, you know, it was 22 and then kind of after that then I sort of you know I got some

distance from it then I was like oh shit you know things are a little different

at home you know know, they were.

Well, your dad is probably like one of the most important, if not the most important people ever in terms of the psychedelic revolution.

He was, I mean, yeah, my relationship with him and my relationship especially with his work was,

yeah, I mean, of course the secular part was a core pillar and I understood that's what made him famous. But I considered him to be like he was a futurist really, you know, when you know, during my formative years, I mean the psychedelic thing was always there, but he was much more interested in like in technology and cyberculture and kind of like the progressive kind of technology arts and things like that.

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