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How Long Gone

890. - Zoe Dubno

How Long Gone

Chris Black & Jason Stewart / Talkhouse

Society & Culture

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Zoe Dubno is a writer from New York. Her debut novel, Happiness & Love, is out now on Scribner. We chat about Spencer Pratt running for mayor, Chevy Chase is an old dick, Hillary Duff beefing with Tisdale, what kind of car you're allowed to drive at Oberlin, Amazon drone delivery, what happens with the giant expensive fashion magazines are the only ones left, Dimes (the restaurant), moving from starving artist to lower middle class artist, her younger brother works in tech, the improv pyramid scheme, producer Mike Dean, and meatballs on lettuce at the Meatball Shop. instagram.com/zoedubno twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans howlonggone.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

How long gone? It's a beautiful Thursday after the sun is shining here in Manhattan.

0:23.8

Jason, I know you have a big announcement to make, so I don't want to steal your thunder.

0:27.9

But if you want me to help, just let me know.

0:30.9

Yeah, man.

0:32.0

Andrew Huberman has a Goop Kitchen collab.

0:35.6

And this is huge for me.

0:38.3

A and B combined into a C.

0:42.2

I was, I was going to, okay, that's huge and I don't, I don't mean to try to, you know,

0:47.2

take any error out of that, but I also.

0:48.8

Will Welch steps down from GQ.

0:50.6

I know that you've been working, you know, behind the scenes, uh, kind of in local politics in Los

0:55.8

Nangers for a while. And you have sort of helped, um, reality reality star and husband of Heidi

1:03.0

Montag, uh, Spencer Pratt spearhead his campaign to take down evil Karen Bask. First lady elect

1:10.2

Heidi Montag.

1:15.8

I just wanted to know, you know, how long you've been plotting it.

1:19.5

Like, what do you, you know, what is, when did you start putting pen to paper?

1:26.0

Spencer and I, Spencer and I have been in talks probably, was it, 22, I guess.

1:28.4

So it's been three years now, three, four years.

1:31.8

And, you know, he's got the west side sort of on lock.

1:36.9

And he needed somebody, you know, he needed hokas on the ground on the east side.

1:40.0

And he doesn't like Altadina flavor.

1:43.8

He knows that, you know, I'm just close enough without being too, you know what I mean?

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