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The Lincoln Project

89: The Personalities, the Egos, and the Stories with Abigail Tracy

The Lincoln Project

The Lincoln Project

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 December 2021

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Host Reed Galen is joined by Abigail Tracy, National Political Reporter at Vanity Fair to discuss what’s really happening in the headlines surrounding Vice President Kamala Harris, how exponentially inflating political egos have eroded both decency and accountability, and why the ones who are stepping away from public office are the ones we most need to stay. Plus, when journalism focuses on personalities rather than procedures.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reed Galen. Today, I'm joined by Abigail

0:13.7

Tracy, National Political Reporter and Vanity Fair. Prior to her time there, she wrote for

0:18.6

Inc. Magazine and was the senior news producer at Forbes. She's a graduate of Northwestern

0:23.1

University where she majored in journalism and economics and also ran cross-country.

0:27.0

Today, she's coming to us from her new home, our nation's capital, Washington, DC.

0:31.2

Abby, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me, Reed.

0:34.7

So I can tell you that I run only when chased and often only by bears. So the idea that you did it

0:42.3

like on purpose is always fascinating to me. Yes, still am. When I run, everything just hurts. So

0:48.3

I try and avoid it. But not to make it an athletic show or sports show, but you still run, you said?

0:53.6

Yeah, no, I actually did the Leadville 100 just a couple months back, which was fun.

0:57.7

Oh, really? My neighbor has done the Leadville bike race several times.

1:02.3

And we were in Colorado for some work stuff. We were an aspirin and then we drove over to Denver,

1:09.0

stopped in Leadville for lunch. Not what I would call the greatest lunch spot.

1:12.6

Right. And I did get a Leadville hat. And in the store, I said, if I buy this hat,

1:19.1

do I look like a poser because I've done neither the run or the bike? And she said, this is why

1:25.2

the store exists. And I'm like, okay, fair enough. And that's like 100 miles, right?

1:29.0

Yes. So it's 100 miles and you have to complete it in under 30 hours.

1:32.9

Okay. So if I walked three miles an hour for 30 hours, I still wouldn't finish.

1:38.8

Right. Probably not. Well, and then you have to throw in the altitude. So Leadville is actually

1:43.2

the highest incorporated city in the country. So it's the highest altitude that anybody actually

1:48.5

lives at. It's the La Paz Bolivia of the United States. Exactly. So listen, I want to talk to you

1:55.3

about, you know, a couple of things today. First is your style of writing. You know, you mentioned

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