89. The Ministry for the Future with Kim Stanley Robinson
Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast
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🗓️ 18 February 2021
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
On Friday, The United States will officially be back in the Paris Climate Agreement!
*cue appropriate volume of fanfare*
And while in a week where Dallas, Texas is colder than Anchorage, Alaska - our co-host Paul Dickinson takes us on a short list of topics discussing the social cost of carbon recently updated by Joseph Stiglitz and Lord Nicholas Stern to match the severity of the climate crisis, as well as a listener question regarding the unregulated growth and steadily growing emissions of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
But all of this in context, with the US “still in” as it’s being promoted - We anxiously await the United States’ Nationally Determined Contribution which should be announced anytime between now and late April. Once that number comes through, the race to COP 26 will be at full speed where the very first 5 year check in of global accountability and ambition towards a net-zero 2050 and beyond will happen.
So with the world’s largest economy on track to boost the global coalition of nations dedicated to this collective goal, will we be able to achieve emission reductions fast enough to avoid catastrophe? This week our guest is legendary science fiction writer, Kim Stanley Robinson, whose prolific career includes the international bestselling Mars trilogy, and more recently Red Moon, New York 2140, Aurora, Shaman, Green Earth, and 2312. Stan joins us for an exclusive look into the themes of his latest book: The Ministry for the Future, which offers an unflinching look at what our future may hold even in 2025 if we do not address runaway climate change. Optimistically he says, “We are all living in a science fiction novel we are coauthoring together.”
So, what future will we write?
Sci-Fi Pop Music this week from French duo, Toukan Toukän!
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| 0:00.5 | We're gonna do it together, we're gonna do it. |
| 0:02.1 | Watch my fingers, ready? |
| 0:04.1 | Tom? |
| 0:04.7 | Oh, sorry. |
| 0:06.7 | Tora la la la la la la la! |
| 0:08.7 | Tora la la la la la la la la! |
| 0:11.0 | The U.S. is back in the Taurus Agreement, |
| 0:13.9 | Universal Agreement, all nations in the world. |
| 0:17.1 | There we go. |
| 0:18.0 | The U.S. is back! |
| 0:22.0 | Hello and welcome to Outragean Optimism. I'm Tom Riviccarnack. I'm Happy Cristiano |
| 0:39.3 | Figueroos. I'm a joyous Paul Dickinson. This week we discuss the reentry of the US |
| 0:44.5 | into the Paris Agreement. We talk about many issues that Paul Dickinson has researched |
| 0:49.2 | adding for items. We speak to the brilliant Kim Stanley Robinson author of the recent |
| 0:54.5 | book Ministry for the Future and we have music from French duo Toucan Toucan. Thanks for |
| 1:01.0 | being. |
| 1:08.0 | Guys this is such an exciting week. I mean I have to say you guys are going to have to carry. |
| 1:11.1 | I don't know if you know this but in the UK it's half term. Now you have to squint to see |
| 1:15.0 | the difference these days between homeschooling and half term but that means that I have |
| 1:18.9 | I'm getting even less done than usual. I've got my kids around. We're running around |
| 1:22.0 | with going to the beach. So what's happening? Is anything big going on in the world at |
| 1:25.2 | the moment? Well actually half term means that you are on vacation. That's what it means |
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