The following is a conversation with Stephen Wolfram, a computer scientist, mathematician,

and theoretical physicist who is the founder and CEO of Wolfram Research, a company behind

Mathematica, Wolfram Alpha, Wolfram Language, and the new Wolfram Physics project.

He is the author of several books including a new kind of science, which, on a personal note,

was one of the most influential books in my journey in computer science and artificial intelligence.

It made me fall in love with the mathematical beauty and power of cellular automata.

It is true that perhaps one of the criticisms of Stephen is at a human level, that he has a big

ego, which prevents some researchers from fully enjoying the content of his ideas.

We talk about this point in this conversation. To me, ego can lead your stray, but can also be a

superpower, one that fuels bold, innovative thinking that refuses to surrender to the cautious

ways of academic institutions. And here, especially, I ask you to join me in looking past the

peculiarities of human nature and opening your mind to the beauty of ideas and Stephen's work

and in this conversation. I believe Stephen Wolfram is one of the most original minds of our time,

and at the core is a kind, curious, and brilliant human being. This conversation was recorded in

November 2019, when the Wolfram Physics project was underway, but not yet ready for public

exploration as it is now. We now agree to talk again, probably multiple times in the near future,

so this is round one, and stay tuned for round two soon.

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