Welcome to the tech policy podcast. I'm Evan Schwarger. On today's show, recognizing that Airbnb exists. My next guest is our next guest, my only guest today, wrote a piece for Medium

recently that we linked to in the show notes discussing a law that Arizona passed on home

sharing. And in the pre-show, you mentioned that there are kind of two types of ways of looking

at home sharing. There are states that kind of pretend it doesn't exist. And then there are those

that have recognized it as a part of the economy and they're looking to regulate it.

I'm joined by Carl Zabo, Policy Council for NetChoice, a group that represents a lot of different internet companies and a lot of good work on free speech and stuff like that.

So, Carl, thank you so much for joining the show.

Thanks for having me.

Just before we jump in, tell us a little bit about your group net choice, because it's an

interesting situation you've got here.

Well, we're an e-commerce trade association, and essentially we are centered around the idea

of breaking down barriers to e-commerce.

And when you look at the issue of short-term rentals, home sharing,

and the sharing economy writ large, what we're seeing is oftentimes legacy interests and

legislators who just don't understand some of the nuances, trying to erect barriers to e-commerce and using the guise of consumer

protection to do that.

Right. Yeah. There's this classic false dichotomy of regulation means consumers are

protected, deregulation means companies are protected and don't have to follow the law.

Well, that's really a false choice. It's more about regulating in a smart way.

So speaking of which, Arizona has taken the approach of recognizing the home sharing economy as a maybe separate entity or similar entity to short-term rentals in the traditional sense like hotels.

Tell us about the regulations that Arizona

recently passed in their law and your thoughts on them. Well, Arizona SB 1350, which Governor

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