Welcome to the Allie on the Run show. I'm your host, Allie Fellar, and this is where I talk with people who are doing exciting things on the run and beyond.

From professional athletes and celebrity runners to the everyday, amateur, and back of the pack runner, we are here to celebrate everyone and anyone who enjoys a life

on the run. So whether you are running towards something big or away from something that's been

holding you back, I am here to hold your hand and help you pick up the pace. Today, because life

continues to crush me and cancer is currently my full-time job which i should say everything is okay

it's just a lot to manage at the moment with this new treatment plan and it leaves very little time

for much else so it's actually really hard right now honestly uh so we're doing another throwback

thursday episode hope that's cool with you.

It was actually awesome hearing from so many of you last week.

So many people loved listening back to that very first live show with Chris Heisler,

Meb Kofleski, Andrea Barber, and Deslin.

And I'm so glad.

So thank you for tuning in.

And today, we are going back to December 2019. Kind of feels like a lifetime ago,

doesn't it? This episode was for a very, very, very long time, my favorite episode. It was the one I always brought up when people asked about my most memorable interview, and it was one of

the first ones that I felt

really made a splash and a mark on the running community. The response to this episode when it first

aired was tremendous, both in feedback and in downloads. It was the most downloaded episode of the

show for a really long time. And it's cool because the episode features three names you may not

otherwise know, Menso De Jong, Chris Dehula, and Ken Rakeshra. The running landscape looked pretty

different in late 2019, but one thing has not changed. People go to Sacramento in December to run the California International Marathon,

and they go there to run fast. The CIM course is known for being the place people go to get

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