This is Rubella after the cheek and we're listening to the London Blue podcast.

Hello and welcome back to London is Blue.

It is another year and another all four women's champions league draw for Chelsea.

We have royally pissed off someone somewhere at UEFA

and have ended up drawing Paris Saint-Germain, Real Madrid,

and Albania's finest Blasnia in the group stage of the women's champions league.

But listen, look, to win tough competitions you have to play tough games

and these are just the first three slush six on a route to Eindhoven.

So to talk about how hard these games might be, I'm drawn today by Abdullah Abdullah and Karl

Carpenter. Abdullah, I'm coming to you first.

What was your immediate reaction when you saw the group stage draw today?

Fear because PSG just shrinks in their forward line that wasn't already scary enough.

And Real Madrid have shown of the last couple of years that they are no jokes.

They are hugely impressive.

In parts they gave Barcelona a good game last year.

And for a team like them on the counter attack, I think it's going to be seriously scary.

So Chelsea have to be on their toes for both games.

And yeah, so fear is my word of the day.

Karl, your thoughts on Chelsea's group or the draw in general?

Yeah, I think looking at it for your old perspective,

perspective, the Chelsea draw is obviously tough.

It's pretty much the worst case scenario apart from Volzania.

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