This is popular front, a podcast focused on the niche details of modern warfare and

underreported conflict with me Jake Hanrahan.

For this episode we're speaking to Matthew Galt.

He's the host of War College podcast and a journalist.

He covers everything from nuclear armaments to strange situations with

war and gaming and today he's going to be talking to us about this scandal

within the US military's e-sports division which sounds

absolutely mental I know but it's weird they've been trying to use e-sports as a means of recruitment and say no that's not what we're doing

when it very clearly is. Matthew's going to tell us all about it. If you like what we're doing

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So yeah man I see all this madness on Twitter like this like the most

cringe thing I've ever seen in my life where like you know fucking US military

e-sports is trying to act all like gamer-ish and stuff and then like

discord and twitch are like ooh like replying it's the most cringe thing I've ever seen

what the hell is going on with the US Army e-sports team?

I mean that's funny because that's where it starts right. It starts on Twitter.

That's when everybody notices when the US Army e-sports official brand account is, you know, doing the UU-O-O-Mogee, talking to Discord's brand account.

But to really like kind of get into it, we got to go back a few years.

Because like everyone's attention has been on the US Army's

e-sports initiative and the Navy, the military really the whole Pentagon's e-sports initiative in the Navy, the military really, the whole Pentagon's

e-sports initiative in the last few months, but it started a few years back and

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