Welcome back to the peripheral. Before I start, I want to make a few announcements.

I was on the Wine and Crime podcast. It was actually about a month ago. It's episode 67,

Gossip at the Corpse Cart. Amanda and Lucy actually do my astrology chart, so they're just hilarious and it was

really fun chatting with them. Also, if you're in the Northeast, Aaron and I will be at the

Berkshire podcast festival in North Adams, Massachusetts. That's October 18th through the 20th.

Use code Generation 2024 and you'll get

35% off your ticket. All right. So today's episode is a little different. I had the pleasure

of speaking with Jake, who is one of the hosts of the Strictly Stalking podcast and Love Lust Fear.

It's an interesting conversation between us.

We're two similar podcasts you interview guests about relationships and traumatic events.

We discuss what it's like being on the other side of the microphone.

We also talk about ways to protect yourself

from stalking and resources that are available for stalking victims.

How are you doing tonight, Jake? I'm great. How are you doing, Justin?

I'm doing wonderful. I will admit that I feel like I'm sort of interviewing myself in a way right now.

We're kind of in the same vein of podcasting. Apparently we're cloning according to a lot of people out there in terms of what we do and what we bring to the table.

But I think we're going to find some pretty unique POVs on this conversation, I hope. Well, go ahead and introduce

yourself and... Oh, sure. My Laurel speak for themselves. Do I even need to bother? No, just kidding.

I'm not as arrogant as I just sounded there. But my name is Jake Deptula. I am the co-host of a podcast called Strictly Stalking. We feature

stalking survivors every week. We've been doing the show for about four and a half, five years now,

have interviewed well over 250 stalking survivors where they share their stories in their own words.

My co-host, Jamie Beebe, and I have been within the depths of true crime in victim advocacy

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