JP, you might have seen him on my channel.

I've had a few clips where we're in a discussion.

JP is part of a group of discussion that I have every month, a kind of private symbolism

seminar for patrons.

And JP is graduated, just finished his degree in philosophy.

He's very keen, very smart.

He has had some discussions with Paul Vanderclay,

with also John Verveke. And so it was a high time that I had him on my channel. You will see in

the discussion that we refer to a video that I put up as a patron-only video. I think that in general,

you'll get a good sense of some of the

deeper discussions that are happening in the realm of symbolism, how this relates to consciousness,

how it relates to the way in which nature reveals itself, you know, just naturally. So we talk

about the book of Ephesians, St. Paul, these ontological levels,

there's a lot of good stuff in there. And I hope that it will be useful for everybody to

follow this discussion. This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

Hello everybody. I would like to introduce to you, J.P. Marceau. Some of you who follow the larger

discussion with Paul Vanderclay, with John Verveci, might have seen him around. He's been talking to a lot of

people. I've been in conversation with him for about two years. We realize almost already.

He's been in my private discussions with other people. I've also met him a few times,

one time or a few times? Yeah, one time, one time. Just one time. And he, so he just finished his

master's degree in philosophy. He works in the world of computers and he's really interested

in, you know, in Christian ontology and figuring out how the world lays itself out, how to

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