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🗓️ 16 November 2025
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What’s great about living in a family is that everyone sees everything differently. Also, that’s what’s awful about living in a family. We go behind closed doors with two families.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi everybody. I were here. My voice is weird today. I feel fine. Heather loved being Mormon, |
| 0:08.5 | so she and her husband split up. After that, she says, people in the church treated her and her kids |
| 0:13.6 | differently. She realized she would never have the perfect Mormon family. She was still a believer, |
| 0:19.9 | but she started secretly, doing things as members of the church |
| 0:23.4 | aren't supposed to do. She slept with men. She wasn't married to. She drank. But on the surface, |
| 0:30.3 | she kept up appearances, lived a double life for years before she quit the church. A double life |
| 0:37.1 | with occasional moments where she thought she might get found out. |
| 0:40.8 | You know, as a Mormon person, you're not supposed to drink coffee. |
| 0:44.1 | And that seems fairly innocuous, fairly simple. |
| 0:46.6 | But I was slipping and I was drinking coffee. |
| 0:51.1 | And I had gotten myself a coffee before I picked up my kids from school. |
| 0:55.5 | And they were young enough that they wouldn't understand or get it. |
| 0:59.5 | And, oh, my gosh, yeah. |
| 1:02.1 | And my friend saw me and, like, waved and started to walk over to the car. |
| 1:06.9 | Saw you come out of a coffee shop? |
| 1:08.7 | Nope. |
| 1:09.1 | She just saw me in the car pool line standing there. But I had a hot coffee in my car, and it was fall, and that meant like if I unrolled the window, the smell of coffee was going to waft out right and smack her in the face. |
| 1:20.9 | And so I started to panic, and I unrolled the window, and I can remember, like, the panic. |
| 1:31.1 | And you just learn to lie so easily and so quickly and I think I said oh I'm not drinking it I just love the smell and fall don't worry don't |
| 1:37.2 | worry I just love the smell and she accepted that and said oh I do Isn't it so tempting? And we both just kind of sat there. |
| 1:49.4 | Like, obviously, I didn't buy a coffee for the smell. You know, it was just a conversation that was |
| 1:56.9 | completely fake, and we both engaged in it. And so when she said, oh, it's so tempting, |
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