Three two one.

One. Hello Stephen.

Hello Joe.

Welcome.

Thanks for coming man.

I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

I've enjoyed a bunch of your shit online man.

You've got some really fucking cool articles and some great ideas and we

were talking about the other day a friend of mine we're talking about creativity

and the source of creativity had to cultivate

creativity and I stumbled across something that you had on your website

about creativity about different methods or different ways to try to inspire your creativity or shock your system into

creativity. I'm always really impressed with people who take things that I've

always like man I wonder why or when my

ideas come from and then I go oh check out this guy you actually kind of broke this

shit down and try to figure out what with the source of a lot of these ideas is.

Where are these groovy moments of spontaneous,

you know, just like a blossoming of ideas where they come from

My mechanistic eye like to know how this shit works. Yeah, I've seen that by talking to you just in the past 10 minutes

You got like order. It's a show but thank you. But you have like you

you know like when I was talking about you want cream and your coffee like no

drinks should have one thing scotch neat you know

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