Okay, so here's something I learned about myself this last week. Today's show, we're doing a show about winners, and as we talked about this idea here at the radio show, I learned that there is something I apparently say all the time here at our office as we make the show. And I really had no idea. I said this at all until a few months ago when somebody on staff pointed this out. And back when that happened, I felt like, sure, yes, I guess I have said that every now and then over the years. But this week I learned I had that wrong.

Yeah, you say it all the time.

I am joined in the studio now by my co-worker Diane Wu.

Hey there, Diane.

Hi, Ira.

It's something that I have noticed, but I didn't talk about it with my coworkers until this week.

And when I went to them and taped those conversations, everybody knew what I was talking about.

Whenever you feel like you're trying to work on a story and you're in your low point, he kind of gives you this look.

And he's like, no, you're a winner.

You know, you know how in Harry Potter, they're just like you're a wizard every.

That's what he kind of does with winners.

The thing Ira always says is, let's win.

We're winners.

We're winners. We can do this. I think when I first started working

here, like, as like an intern, basically, I can't remember what it was, but I told him, like, I don't think

I can do that. And he's like, that's a loser mentality. We're winners. And then I remember

thinking, like, oh, no, I am a winner.

I like to win things.

He spoke to something.

That worked on me.

I can't believe anyone actually feels that way.

That's so great for them.

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