Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of theology in the raw. I have on the show today,

Ellie Bonilla Jr., who is an emerging leader in the next gen space. He's the next gen regional

co-chair for North America with Empower 21. And he also feels a position of national millennial

director for the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference. His full-time responsibilities

are with one hope as a master's fellow. I came across Ellie earlier this year in two different

venues and axiom gathering and also at the QIDAs conference in Nashville a couple of months ago.

And each time I heard Ellie spoke, he just lit up the room, as I say in the intro of this podcast.

I mean, I was so impressed with his character, his humility, his wisdom, his passion,

and I'm like, dude, I have to get this guy on the podcast. So I'm so excited for you to listen

to this conversation. We talk a lot about race and he brings an interesting background to the race

conversation, as you will hear. We also spend a bit of time talking about the Israeli-Palestinian

conflict going on or that, you know, at the time of recording, you know, there were a few days out,

or were a few days past a ceasefire. But, you know, this is obviously one of many flare-ups that

happens, seems like it happens quite often over the last, I don't know, maybe 2,000 years. But

Ellie is married to a Palestinian woman, half Palestinian. And so his wife brings an interesting

perspective to that conversation. And I just learned a ton. I learned a ton from this conversation

every time Ellie speaks, I learn a lot. So if you would like to support this podcast, you can go

to patreon.com forward slash theologian to Ross, put the show for his little five bucks a month,

and become part of the theology in the raw community. Without further ado, let's welcome to the show

for the first time, hopefully not the last time they want to know me. Ellie, Bonilla, Jr.

Hello friends, welcome back to another episode of theology in the raw. I'm here with a new friend,

Ellie Bonilla. Ellie and I, we have met a couple times at similar venues where we've spoken at

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