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The Kevin Miller Podcast

87 Year Study On What Provides Happiness = Relationships w/ Harvard Grant Study Director & Zen Master Robert Waldinger

The Kevin Miller Podcast

Kevin Miller

Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality, Social Sciences, Education, How To, Society & Culture, Science, Medicine, Life Sciences, Spirituality, Nutrition, Self-improvement, Mental Health, Relationships

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

I want to start off by asking a question I continually interest myself with. Do we really want to be happy? If I survey the culture, it looks like we very much want happy moments. The little jolts of dopamine from entertainment, food, drugs and such. But do we really want deep and abiding happiness in our souls? Because if we do, then our primary interest would be in relationships. But not just any relationships. I’m revisiting a conversation I had with Robert Waldinger. Robert is a professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development at Massachusetts General Hospital which has been going on for 87 years. His devotion is on what most equates to human happiness, and the answer is, relationships. But let me point out that Robert himself is a Zen master and teaches meditation around the world. Which is a focus on what I feel is our first and most important relationship. The relationship with ourselves. I have continued to grow in appreciation, not just for the message, but for Robert himself. If you have my book, What Drives You, you’ll see his endorsement. Roberts book, which is how I came to know of him, is, The Good Life: Lessons From the World’s Longest Scientific Study on Happiness. And you type in, “Robert Waldinger TED” you will find his TED talk, titled, What Makes A Good Life, that between postings on both YouTube and TED has over 80 million views. Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller, and this is a podcast to elevate your experience of life, an experience that you're creating. In this episode, an 87-year study on what provides happiness. The answer is relationships. But I want to start off by asking a question I continually interest myself with.

0:24.1

Do we really want to be happy?

0:27.0

If we survey the culture, it looks like we very much want, you know, happy moments, the little

0:32.4

jolts of dopamine from entertainment and food and drugs and whatever.

0:37.1

But do we really want the deep and

0:38.8

abiding happiness in our souls? Because if we do, then our primary interest would be in

0:46.0

relationships, but not just any relationships. So I'm revisiting this conversation that I had with

0:51.2

Robert Waldinger. Robert is a professor of psychiatry at Harvard

0:56.8

Medical School and director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development at Massachusetts General

1:02.4

Hospital, often referred to as the grant study. It's been going on for 87 years. So Bob's devotion

1:10.2

is on what most equates to human happiness and the answer, as I've said,

1:17.8

relationships. But let me point out that Robert himself is a Zen master and teaches meditation

1:23.4

around the world, which is a focus on what I feel is our most and first important relationship,

1:29.8

as I've learned. Self, the relationship with ourselves. I've continued to grow in appreciation,

1:37.0

not just for this message, but for Bob himself. If you have my book, What Drives You,

1:44.0

you'll see his endorsement on there.

1:47.1

Robert's book, Bob's book,

1:49.2

which is how I came to know of him,

1:50.6

is called The Good Life,

1:52.7

lessons from the world's longest scientific study on happiness.

1:56.1

And if you type in Robert Waldinger, TED, TED,

2:00.0

as in TED Talk, you'll find his talk, what makes a good life

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