All right, friends, you know, this is kind of like one of those emergency

podcast episodes. We're recording this on a Monday, August 29th. I'm going to try to have this out like tomorrow

because this is a very important conversation that has to happen. I'm joined on

the podcast with Riley, our new evangelicals researcher, and also just overall

badass person.

And then I have Jay and Jana from the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast, and there's a reason why I asked them to join me and

thank you guys by the way for making the time so I mean I literally texted you

I think I messed you jana at what like 10 a.m. I'm like hey any chance you guys could record a

podcast today on this and here we are trying to record so thanks for making

time so we're gonna I'm gonna let you guys introduce yourselves in one

second I just want to kind of give the audience here.

The reason why we're doing this is because as you're going to kind of hear, this episode is important because

we're discussing Matt Chandler and some news that just came out with him really

24 hours ago and we need to unpack this because we see this this play over and over again in evangelical spaces.

And I think it's important to kind of look at what is said

versus what history tells us.

So we're going to dive into all of that.

But before I do that, Jay and Jana do you want to introduce

yourselves really quick?

Sure. Hi I'm Jana I'm one of the hosts Jay is the other half of the hosts

or the Bodies Behind the Bus, Podcast.

And we're a podcast that is really sparked out of birth out of the desire for Acts 29 spiritual

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