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The Addicted Mind Podcast

87: The Root of the Addictive Process with Alex Katehakis

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7655 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Today's guest is Alex Katehakis. Alex is a Clinical Sexologist with a doctorate in human sexuality. She's also the Clinical Director of the Center For Healthy Sex in Los Angeles, California.

Alex has written several books - Sex Addiction As Affect Dysregulation, Erotic Intelligence, and Mirror Of Intimacy. 

Episode link>>>>www.theaddictedmind.com/87

In today's episode, she shares her wisdom and insight about recovery and we have a great conversation about the root causes of the addictive process. We focus on the early developmental trauma and the way that it affects the ability to regulate our affect, and how addictive substances or processes are used to escape from those feelings. 

Alex has always been fascinated by human sexuality. After practicing as a licensed marriage/family therapist for twenty-five years, she decided to dive deeper into human sexuality, rather than psychology.

Talking about affect is referring to emotions. These emotions live deep within the body, and they only come forward when they are registered by the brain as feelings. 

When a person is dysregulated and stressed out, their affect becomes dysregulated. When a child feels threatened, perhaps from an alcoholic, raging, shut down, or mean parent, their affect becomes dysregulated and they will always find themselves looking for something to make them feel better. In their waking life, a dysregulated person will feel anxious, depressed, dead internally, or dull. There's a general lack of feeling vitality in the body.

Dysregulated people say they don't feel joy states, or they are super anxious, so they have to drink to make the anxiety go away. They may use sex to make themselves feel powerful or good about themselves.

Anything that we're doing outside of ourselves to make ourselves feel 'right internally' speaks to affect dysregulation. Someone who is securely attached, and has a good heart-rate variability in general, doesn't have to reach for anything to change their internal state or mood. 

Love addicts, and some sex addicts, learned very early on that they had to get their needs met by themselves, so they used fantasy, which is a form of mild to moderate dissociation. This makes it difficult for them to connect to another person, as an adult, and to have intimacy or closeness. People often don't know this about themselves until their lives become unmanageable. 

Change is possible, however, it takes time. 

Willpower is difficult for people experiencing a lot of stress. It's not the best way to change long-standing patterns that people have developed over time.

Long-term psychotherapy can help people feel into their bodies, and it allows them to feel the things they could not feel, as a child. 

Twelve-step programs help people change because they are inclusive and non-judgmental. As humans, we all need other people to survive. 

In her book, Sex Addiction As Affect Dysregulation, Alex looks at the underlying mechanism that drives problematic behavior. It helps people to see sex addiction in a new way, and it offers hope for the people who are struggling with it. 

Sex addiction is being recognized more and more by the scientific community as a bone fide problem. It was first recognized in about 1978, although people were talking about it as an affliction as early as in the 1800s. In 2011, the American Society of Addiction Medicine made a public policy statement, in which they included sex as an addiction. In 2018, a proposed diagnosis of compulsive sexual behavior disorder was established for the international coding book, the ICD.

Remember, it's never too late to take a step in the direction of health!

Links and resources:

To find out more, go to www.thecenterforhealthysex.com 

Alex also has a Youtube channel with hundreds of videos from sex-experts around the world. 

Alex's books: Sex Addiction As Affect Dysregulation

           Erotic Intelligence

           Mirror Of Intimacy

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of The Addicted Mind. We are on to episode

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87. My name is Dwayne Austerlund and I'm your host. I'm also the founder of Novis Mindful

0:18.6

Life Institute, Family Counseling Recovery Center in Long Beach, California.

0:23.6

If you or anyone you know is struggling with any of life's challenges, reach out to us.

0:28.9

You can find out about us at theaddictedmind.com slash help.

0:34.3

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0:41.0

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0:50.3

And if you're interested, please share your story of hope.

0:55.1

Go to the website, Theaddictoredmind.com, click on the tab on the side, and you can share a 90-second

1:01.4

audio clip of your message of hope to other people out there who might be struggling.

1:08.7

I'd love to get your voices on the podcast as well.

1:12.7

And if you've done that, I really appreciate it

1:15.2

and thank you so much.

1:16.8

All right, today's guest is Alex Katahakis,

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somebody who I've wanted to have on the podcast

1:24.2

for quite some time and I'm so excited.

1:26.9

She decided to come on.

1:27.9

She is a clinical sexologist and the clinical director of the Center for Healthy

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Sex in Los Angeles, California.

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And she's written several awesome books.

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One of my favorite is sex addiction as affect dysregulation and also erotic intelligence and

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mirror of intimacy. We have a great conversation about some of the root causes of the addictive

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