Welcome back to the Lincoln Project.

I'm your host, Ray Galen.

Today, I'm joined by fellow co-founder of the Lincoln Project, host of LPTV's The Breakdown,

an author of the New York Times best-selling book Everything Trump Touches dies, Rick Wilson.

Rick, thanks for coming back.

Hey, man, great to meet you back on the podcast.

So Rick, today I want to talk a little bit about next year, where we are politically and

organizationally.

So, first and foremost, I want to say that you and Stuart and Joe and everyone that works

with us at the Lincoln Project can't be more thankful for the passion and support that

everybody in our community, whether or not it's here on this podcast, on the streaming

services, the millions of people that follow us on social media or the million people

on our email list, you know, it'll be two years since we founded this in just a couple

of weeks, which is hard to believe in and of itself.

And you know, we started as this sort of little fledgling pirate ship.

We grew to be, you know, this gigantic power projecting aircraft carrier.

Now we sort of return to our roots, which I think is someplace that I certainly enjoy

because it gives us a chance to really be flexible.

But what do you think is going to be the most important thing that we can do as we move

forward in the 2022 midterms?

Because what I'm finding is what we always find, which is most super packs, out of every

24 months, there's like a nine months on 15 months off cycle.

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