How are you? I'll go first. Great. Okay. I am worried about things that I know are going to happen and I'm also worried about all the things that I don't know are going to happen. I would like to not spend this entire episode talking about that. Is that possible? We'll definitely not talk about it some.

Okay. Because I know that like when I'm listening to a podcast right now.

Yeah. I want to not be thinking about this the whole time.

It's funny because I think that there are two reactions.

One is to go bim bam and like this is what I want. I need some

distraction. I need to be happy. And like I love that. I mean I'm obviously

I'm cool with acknowledging it.

Yeah, and then the other direction, and like I've done both of these things

is I will listen to podcast after podcast about coronavirus and it's it's what it's wild to me that I can do this

especially because like it requires going back in time and listening to podcasts from even before when we had

less information than we now do. So I yes I've been I've been doing that and so I think that to some extent people you know

Like what what I what I'm looking for though is information that I'm not going to get.

Like ultimately I'm looking for insight that that isn't going to be that accurate

it might be or it might not be it's going to be context yeah the only thing that will tell us how things will go is the time.

Yeah, I think that these these oftentimes these shifts where suddenly more people have less

wake us up to the reality that people have not had enough for a long time

Yeah and my moments of crisis tend to be moments. not had enough for a long time.

My moments of crisis tend to be moments of social cohesion.

We think that they are going to be moments

that drive us apart and that turn us selfish.

But they, and they do do that, and some people certainly do that but I think on average most

people tend to tends to be a moment that actually brings us together and let's

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