Welcome back, friends, to another episode of Theology and the Raw. I have on the show today,

Dr. Rebecca McLaughlin. Oh, my goodness, you guys are in for a treat. Dr. McLaughlin,

or I'll just call her Rebecca, wrote a book called Confronting Christianity, 12 Hard Christians

for the World's Largest Religion, which was published by Crossway and the Gospel Coalition in 2019.

And it became the Christianity today's Book of the Year for 2020. Dr. McLaughlin holds a PhD in

English Literature from Cambridge, England, and a theology degree from Oak Hill College in London.

She wrote another kind of kids version, not kids, a youth version of the book called, wait for it,

wait for it, ten questions every Christian teen should ask and answer about Christianity.

And she recently released a very controversial book called The Secular Creed,

engaging the contemporary claims. We talk about all of this and more, and oh my gosh,

I've only known Rebecca from a distance. We've talked on the phone once, we've emailed back

and forth, actually roped her into another project I'm working on, which I'll probably reveal to

the public in due time. But I've just been really quickly impressed with Rebecca, her wisdom,

her wit, her intelligence, her faith on this to the Gospel, and her humility, and her ability to

really kind of see the other side. I mean, I was really impressed in this conversation that

unlike some like defenders of the faith, you know, the apologists, they just kind of come out and

win the argument. Rebecca is a fantastic listener. She's very humble and understands kind of where

people are coming from, very relational. And I just, I didn't want to stop talking to her. She

just the hour flew by and I was like, I got to cut this off. Even though I have like a thousand more

questions. So I know you're going to enjoy this conversation. Please check out her books. I

literally just got right right when I got off the podcast, I ordered the youth book that she wrote

because I've got four youths. And I'm like, dude, we need to go through this. So my family and I

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