Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology in the raw. I have on the show today a special guest, Dr. Michael Laidlaw, who is a interconnologist.

He has an MD from University of California and has been practicing interconnology for a number of years and has recently, as in the last several years,

become involved with the medical side of certain aspects of the trans conversation. As an interconnologist, he has a lot of expertise in the area of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, and that's exactly what we talk about today.

I wanted to have him on the show because Michael is extremely level-headed, fair, balanced kind, and I think he does a great job giving us what we know and don't know from an interconnologist's perspective about using different hormones that your body hasn't naturally produced or using certain puberty blockers to prevent the natural process of puberty from happening.

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So again, you can go to patreon.com forward slash Theology in the raw if you want to be part of that community. Okay, without further ado, let's get to know it. They want to know Dr. Michael Laidlach.

All right, welcome back to another episode of Theology in the raw. I'm here with my friend, Dr. Michael Laidlach, who is an endocrinologist and agreed to come on the show to talk about the medical side of very

controversial issue. I'm a puberty blockers cross sex hormones, especially when it comes to trans identified teenagers. If you're not aware, I think probably most people listening are watching are very aware, but if you're not aware, this has become a major controversial conversation in the medical field in just ethical conversations as a whole.

So Michael is okay if I call you Michael instead of Dr. Michael's fine. Yeah, Mike. Whatever. Thanks so much for being on the show. Really appreciate it. Hey, you're welcome. Good to see you again, Preston. Why do we love to just briefly, you know, get to know you. Who are you? Tell us about your medical practice and then how did you get into this conversation about puberty blockers and cross sex hormones?

Sure. Well, I'm just an ordinary endocrinologist. I have a small private practice rock on California, we're kind of east of Sacramento 15 miles or so.

I trained as a medical doctor down University of Southern California. I did a specialty training in internal medicine and then endocrinology primarily adult endocrinology, but we dealt with some teen adolescent issues and there's some pediatric training that goes into it minimal.

But to understand adults, you have to some degree understand what happens as a child, what happens to development and growth all the way from the embryo up to adulthood.

So yeah, I completed specialty training down Southern California fellowship endocrinology and was kind of just minding my own business doing my own thing until in Rockland and you may recall this story.

There's a book in the show called I am jazz. And in Rockland, there was a big, you know, it made national news, I believe.

And I first heard about it, I think, on the radio that this I am jazz book a transgender book for kids was read in the local kindergarten class and parents were rather upset about why that happened and what was going on.

And I've heard different versions of the story, but what it sounds like it was a kindergarten class. There was a boy who had gender dysphoria, gender dysphoria being this discomfort level anxiety, different psychological effects that come with believing that you're that your physical body parts don't match who you are inside.

So this kindergarten student had this problem is a boy, believe it was a girl.

And to introduce the students to it apparently the teacher took it on her own to read this I am jazz book what's I am jazz jazz Jennings is a person who identifies as transgender born a boy has gone at this point through hormones and surgeries to have the physical parents of a female.

And wrote a book to I guess introduce young people to what was going on.

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