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Blue Sky. My guest today is Miriam Gerba, author of a new essay collection entitled Creep, Accusations, and Confessions.

Not always, but often essays are provoked by feelings of discomfort or annoyance with arguments that I hear repeated that don't make much sense to me.

And so that tends to provoke like some sort of investigation

that then leads to the drafting of an essay.

And I kind of think of essays as my version of algebra, where I'm solving for why, and I'm doing it through

language. All right. That was Miriam Gerba, author of the new essay collection entitled

Creep. Out this week on Avid Reader Press. This is a very sharp, very subversive, heartbreaking,

sprawling, often darkly funny essay collection about oppression and toxicity. It is an informal

sociological exploration of the toxic traditions in the United States that helped to create

abusers at all levels of our society. Creep is the follow-up to Miriam Gerba's much-heralded

true crime memoir entitled Meen, which was published by Coffee House Press back in 2017.

My conversation with Miriam will be happening momentarily.

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