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My guest today is Francis Chan. Do I need to, I probably don't even need to say anything

else. Francis Chan is Francis Chan. So yeah, in this conversation, I'll be honest, man, we

we get pretty raw and honest. And that's what I love about Francis is he is who he is. I don't

know if I've ever actually told him this. I know I've said this publicly in a few different places,

but you know how big name famous Christians like people who are on a stage like there's usually

a gap between who they are in real life and who they are on the stage. That's true of almost

everybody I've met. When it comes to Francis in my experience in friendship with him, I don't see

a gap. That radical, passionate Jesus loving preacher that many of us kind of grew up following

and learning from that really is who he is behind closed doors. He just he is when he wakes up every

day, he is truly excited to be in the presence of Jesus. And that's not a show. It's not a thing

he puts on. It's just who he is. And then a lot of it comes out in this podcast. We also talk about

some pretty I guess vulnerable and raw stuff in both of our backgrounds with our theological

environment that we grew up with. So anyway, hope you enjoy the conversation. Without further ado,

please welcome back to the show for the second time for the second time. Do you want to know

how many friends to share?

Hey friends, I am here with an old friend of mine, up and coming speaker. One of these days he

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