Stephen Bonnell, welcome back to the show.

Alex O'Connor, thank you for inviting me to your wonderful studio.

Yes, this glorious wonderful studio that's definitely mine and which I have tastefully decorated myself.

Mark Zuckerberg has recently come out, it seems, as a libertarian.

This sort of left-wing Silicon Valley Tech Pro is now lifting weights and wearing baggy

t-shirts and telling people how much he regrets the political overreaching

of Facebook or Meta.

In particular, Zuckerberg wrote a letter to the House Judiciary Committee recently saying that Biden's administration

had repeatedly pressured our teams, this is a quote, for months to censor certain COVID-19 content, including humorous and satire.

And he says that he regrets this or regrets sort of ceding to this.

He also has apparently called Donald Trump twice on the phone recently, trying to reestablish a relationship with him,

and called him a bad-ass on a podcast talking about his assassination attempt.

More specifically, Zuckerberg has abolished Meta's election integrity team,

cut its once regular election year war room,

cancel transparency tools, which journalists would use to track misinformation and a few other things like that.

What's going on with Mark Zuckerberg?

So I don't know the details of Mark Zuckerberg's political journey in life.

I don't know why he believes, necessarily the things that he believes.

I haven't read like a Mark Zuckerberg biography or anything.

But it feels like as more, I complained about this like a couple years ago,

that as these political movements get larger and

larger and encompass more and more people but the movement itself is like on a

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