86: La Toya Jackson & Jack Gordon

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Cloud10 and Troy McEady

Society & Culture

4.6 • 959 Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

During the late 80s and early 90s, La Toya Jackson became one of the most highly publicized and ridiculed members of her family for being honest with the public in reference to her father’s abuse and her mother’s compliancy. She was also one of the first people to speak out against her brother Michael in 1993 during his sexual abuse case. At the same time, La Toya was forced into an extremely abusive and controlling marriage with her music manager, Jack Gordon. This week we’ll explore all the details surrounding their relationship. Extended episodes are always available on the Solid Listen Patreon page (https://patreon.com/solidlisten) under the $1/month reward level - become a supporter today to ensure you never miss a moment of The Smush Room! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You guys, welcome to episode 86 of The Smush Room, the podcast of Deep Dives and the
0:09.2	well-known, and more importantly, not to well-known hookups of your favorite reality TV stars.
0:13.4	It's me, Troy McKitty.
0:15.8	How's it going?
0:17.7	Crazy week.
0:20.3	We are post-S Kelly and we're post leaving Neverland and I'm just
0:30.6	I'm shaking to my booths. I'm shaken I'm rotted and I'm gutted. I'm shaking to my booths. I'm shaking, I'm rotted and I'm gutted. I'm truly, I'm corroded. I don't even know what to say. I'm just like,
0:41.0	surviving Arkelly was one thing. I was like, all right, so it's now confirmed again for
0:46.9	like the 3 millionth time that R Kelly did in fact do all these things that we all know whatever it's like I was
0:55.9	that was more of like a salacious thing to me it was like being able to have the
1:00.8	first-hand accounts of the girls that that experienced everything was
1:04.1	really cool and being able to like actually hear their voices and see them be like
1:08.0	strong and talk like that was awesome. With Michael, um, Michael is so, like my identity is so wrapped up in the fact that I grew up.
1:29.1	I'm Michael Jackson fan and I'm going to let you know right now that I'm this week I'm gonna do a bonus episode on
1:37.2	Surviving Arkelly and Leaving Neverland because I just feel so I don't know I just feel so like
1:41.1	Confused and sad and grossed out and angry and I feel so many things that I don't even know what to feel or what to say and I feel like I
1:47.4	need to just kind of like ramble my thoughts because it's so it's just so shocking and so sad and I just don't I don't know it's been really I'm
1:59.4	not gonna lie to you it's been really this was intense like this was intense for me but I'm not
2:06.5	gonna get too much into it I want to save it for the bonus episode but I still
2:11.0	wanted to do something Jackson adjacent because I'm so just sort of like immersed in that world right now like I can't stop googling stuff.
2:20.0	I can't stop watching old interviews. I can't stop reading old articles, looking at photos, like I'm just so in it.
2:27.0	And I thought who from the Jackson family could I talk about that's sort of Michael adjacent and interesting and has had this fascinating life and
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