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The Tim Ferriss Show

#850: The Peace That's Always Within You — Guided Meditation by Zen Master Henry Shukman

The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

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🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.

In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.

Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.

Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.

I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.

As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.

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0:00.0

Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferriss show.

0:05.2

This episode is a brand new experiment called Meditation Monday. That means, in addition to my long-form

0:10.7

interviews each week, every Monday, I will be bringing you a short 10-minute or so meditation,

0:15.9

which will help you for the rest of the week. Over this four-episode series, you'll develop a Zen toolkit,

0:21.5

specifically to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.

0:26.3

The teacher, Henry Shookman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few

0:30.9

dozen masters in the world authorized to teach what is called Sambo Zen, and I have found

0:35.7

this particularly interesting and effective. And now he'll

0:37.9

be your teacher. I've been using Henry's app, The Way, once, often twice a day, and it has lowered my

0:45.0

anxiety more than I thought possible. As a listener of the show, you yourself can get 30 free sessions

0:50.4

by visiting theway app.com slash Tim. So if you like what you hear in these meditations,

0:56.0

which will be valuable in and of themselves, you can get 30 free sessions by going to

0:59.5

the wayapp.com slash Tim. And for the time being, please enjoy this meditation Monday with

1:04.9

Henry Shookman. Welcome to this meditation with me, Henry Shookman.

1:11.6

In this little set of meditation so far, we've looked at doing a body scan, we've explored the practice of doing less,

1:20.6

or even not doing anything at all, as a fantastic way to reset the nervous system.

1:25.6

We've also explored how to be with stress in a way that we're not kind of opposing it

1:31.7

and fighting it, but we're including it.

1:34.8

And how helpful that can actually be in bringing us to a more patient and compassionate approach to our own stresses.

1:43.2

In this meditation, we're going to be exploring an old Zen

1:48.6

teaching, which runs like this. Take the backwards step that shines the light inward.

1:56.2

What on earth does this really mean? It means finding a way to rest back into the sort of heart of our experience,

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