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🗓️ 21 May 2025
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In this episode, retired FBI profiler Julia Cowley talks with geographic profiler Douglas MacGregor about his background and how geographic profiling can aid investigations. They discuss the types of cases that benefit most from this approach and take a closer look at the Rachel Morin case and the Zodiac Killer.
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0:16.0 | Music Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler. |
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1:13.0 | not only our episodes but other true crime topics. Today I am joined by Douglas McGregor, who is |
1:21.7 | a geographic profiler. Welcome, Doug. Thank you, Julia, and I appreciate you having me on this show. |
1:27.2 | I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to be here. |
1:28.3 | I'm excited to have you. |
1:29.3 | So I've always been very interested in geographic profiling, but it's not something I've ever done myself. |
1:36.3 | I don't have any training in it. |
1:38.3 | And my exposure to it was in two different ways. |
1:42.3 | One was I think it was either like on a dateline or 48 hours show where it was an arson case |
1:48.7 | and somebody was a serial arsonist and he was going around setting fires and they brought in |
1:54.1 | a geographic profiler to analyze that case and they were able to kind of pinpoint where he likely lived or where he |
2:03.1 | his home base so to speak and so I thought that was really interesting and then when I was at the |
2:09.7 | BAU and I was involved in the Golden State Killer case and this happened prior to my involvement, but a geographic profiler had |
2:20.3 | done a profile on that case. And I think it was Kim Rosmo, who was kind of a guru in geographic |
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