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Bad People

85. Bad People x Bad Blood

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

In November 2018 Chinese scientist Dr He Jiankui made a big announcement; he had illegally “edited” the DNA of Chinese twin girls Lulu and Nana in an attempt to prevent them from contracting HIV. The news made global headlines and the scientific community reacted with horror. But why is it so controversial to mess with our genes? Dr Julia Shaw is joined by geneticist Dr Adam Rutherford to discuss the dangers of gene editing and how it relates to Nazism and the dark history of trying to breed “better people”, the subject of Adam’s BBC Radio 4 series Bad Blood: The History of Eugenics. CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Dr Adam Rutherford Producer: Laura Northedge Assistant Producer: Hannah Ward Editor: Anna Lacey Music: Matt Chandler Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland #BadPeople_BBC Clip: The He Lab “About Lulu and Nana: Twin Girls Born Healthy After Gene Surgery As Single-Cell Embryos”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to tell you why I love podcasting.

0:04.5

I'm Sasha Johansson, I'm an Assistant Commissioner for the BBC,

0:08.1

and I work on making podcasts. My real passion is discovering unbelievable

0:14.3

unheard stories and working with the biggest stars who can really bring those stories to life.

0:20.0

I love the whole process of making podcasts from the spark of an idea

0:24.8

to hearing the final edit. There's nothing like it.

0:27.6

What makes BBC podcast special is that we're working for you,

0:31.0

so whatever we commission has to reflect the things that you care about and love,

0:34.9

wherever you are in the UK. So if you like this BBC podcast, there's so much more to discover.

0:40.4

Have a listen on BBC Sounds. Join me, journalist Audrey Gillan,

0:44.7

as ideal, back into the story of the Bible John Murders.

0:48.1

Those poor women, they didn't do anything wrong.

0:50.6

I reveal police notes I uncovered on each of the killings.

0:54.5

Whether they ever described him as a extremely fond of female company.

0:57.7

I look at a parallel story that has never come to light.

1:01.6

They're dealing with a potential exhumation of a fabled Glasgow serial killer,

1:07.2

but he's telling you that another story is a crackle.

1:09.5

And discover more about the lives of Patricia, Jameima and Helen.

1:14.4

Somehow someone related to me was one of them.

1:18.6

Bible John, creation of a serial killer,

1:21.6

listen now on BBC Sounds.

1:25.4

Three, two, one.

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