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The Tim Ferriss Show

#848: From Stress to Stillness — Guided Meditation with Zen Master Henry Shukman

The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

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🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.

In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.

Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.

Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.

I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.

As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.

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0:00.0

Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferriss show.

0:05.2

This episode is a brand new experiment called Meditation Monday. That means, in addition to my long-form

0:10.7

interviews each week, every Monday, I will be bringing you a short 10-minute or so meditation,

0:15.9

which will help you for the rest of the week. Over this four-episode series, you'll develop a Zen toolkit,

0:21.5

specifically to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.

0:26.3

The teacher, Henry Shookman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few

0:30.9

dozen masters in the world authorized to teach what is called Sambo Zen, and I have found

0:35.7

this particularly interesting and effective. And now he'll

0:37.9

be your teacher. I've been using Henry's app, The Way, once, often twice a day, and it has lowered my

0:45.0

anxiety more than I thought possible. As a listener of the show, you yourself can get 30 free sessions

0:50.4

by visiting theway app.com slash Tim. So if you like what you hear in these meditations,

0:56.0

which will be valuable in and of themselves, you can get 30 free sessions by going to

0:59.5

the wayapp.com slash Tim. And for the time being, please enjoy this meditation Monday with

1:04.9

Henry Shookman.

1:08.7

Welcome to this meditation with me, Henry Shookman, on working with stress.

1:15.1

Stress is a universal human phenomenon and it's terribly widespread today in the way we are

1:23.1

conditioned and socialized and the way we lead our lives with a constant pursuit of productivity,

1:29.8

etc. Many pressures on us all the time. I personally grew up with a lot of stress from a very

1:36.1

difficult chronic illness throughout my childhood that was highly stressful and the moment I started

1:41.9

to meditate around the age of 25 it made a massive

1:46.6

difference to how I dealt with stress so I hope to share something of that right now we might

1:54.0

think of stress as a thing that we want to kind of eliminate and there's a lot of research that

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