#846: Permission to Do Nothing — Guided Meditation with Zen Master Henry Shukman
The Tim Ferriss Show
Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig
4.6 • 17.4K Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2026
⏱️ 9 minutes
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Summary
This episode is part of a series called Meditation Monday. The teacher, Henry Shukman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few dozen masters in the world authorized to teach Sanbo Zen, and now, he’ll be your teacher.
In addition to my long-form interviews each week, every Monday I’ll bring you a short 10-minute or so meditation, which will help you for the rest of the week.
Over this four-episode series, you’ll develop a Zen toolkit to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life.
Henry’s app, The Way, has changed my life since I first started using it. Unlike other meditation apps, where you’re overwhelmed with a thousand choices, The Way is a clear step-by-step training program guided entirely by Henry. Through a logical progression, you’ll develop real skills that stick with you.
I’ve been using it daily, often twice a day, and it’s lowered my anxiety more than I thought possible.
As a listener of my podcast, you can get 30 free sessions by visiting https://thewayapp.com/tim and downloading the app.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs. This is Tim Ferriss. Welcome to another episode of the Tim Ferriss show. |
| 0:05.2 | This episode is a brand new experiment called Meditation Monday. That means, in addition to my long-form |
| 0:10.7 | interviews each week, every Monday, I will be bringing you a short 10-minute or so meditation, |
| 0:15.9 | which will help you for the rest of the week. Over this four-episode series, you'll develop a Zen toolkit, |
| 0:21.5 | specifically to help you find greater calm, peace, and effectiveness in your daily life. |
| 0:26.3 | The teacher, Henry Shookman, has been on my podcast twice before. He is one of only a few |
| 0:30.9 | dozen masters in the world authorized to teach what is called Sambo Zen, and I have found |
| 0:35.7 | this particularly interesting and effective. And now he'll |
| 0:37.9 | be your teacher. I've been using Henry's app, The Way, once, often twice a day, and it has lowered my |
| 0:45.0 | anxiety more than I thought possible. As a listener of the show, you yourself can get 30 free sessions |
| 0:50.4 | by visiting theway app.com slash Tim. So if you like what you hear in these meditations, |
| 0:56.0 | which will be valuable in and of themselves, you can get 30 free sessions by going to |
| 0:59.5 | thewayap.com slash Tim. And for the time being, please enjoy this meditation Monday with |
| 1:04.9 | Henry Shookman. Welcome to another meditation with me, Henry Shookman. |
| 1:12.6 | There are so many ways that meditation can help us. |
| 1:16.6 | There are tons of different techniques and methods and approaches, |
| 1:20.6 | and all of them have something to offer us. |
| 1:24.6 | But at the same time, there is a meditative path that's about doing less, |
| 1:31.7 | not so much about deploying a method or a technique, as simply about learning to kind of drop |
| 1:38.6 | everything, to not be doing anything and to be coming back to an intrinsic, peaceful well-being that we all have |
| 1:49.6 | as part of our very nature, but we're not very used to tapping into it on the whole. |
| 1:56.3 | And in this meditation, we're going to be exploring that and seeing if we can get a taste of it and a taste |
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