What is the secret to making great toast? Oh, you're just going to go in with the hard-hitting questions. I'm Dan Pashman from The Sporkful. We like to say it's not for foodies, it's for eaters. We use food to learn about culture, history, and science. There was the time we looked into allegations of discrimination, Bon Appetit, or when I spent three years inventing a new pasta shape. It's a complex

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It's a complex noodle that you put together.

Every episode of The Sporkful, you're going to learn something, feel something, and laugh.

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I got in the water in the very early morning before the sun had risen, and the water was pitch black.

I started swimming and I felt the water hollowing out around me and felt like something really big was swimming below.

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You know, some guests barely need an introduction, and Jamie Oliver, I think, is definitely one of them.

One of the most recognizable food personalities in the entire English-speaking world. He's written

nearly 30 cookbooks selling over 50 million copies of them, the latest of which is called Eat

Yourself Healthy. He's made dozens of TV shows, opened restaurants around the world,

and channeled millions of dollars into childhood nutrition programs and job skills

training programs for underserved communities. But before all that, Jamie Oliver was just a kid,

a cook in a neighborhood pub. It's a great pleasure to have him in the studio with me today,

to spend the hour together and to get his story.

Jamie Oliver, it is great to meet you. Thanks for coming by.

Thank you so much for having me.

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