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Don't I sound, just, maybe I don't sound as intelligent to you, but if I were a great

ape who had a podcast, maybe that would just blow your mind at how smart I allegedly am,

allegedly so.

Welcome to the Council of Trent Podcast.

I'm your host, Cathay Gantz's,

and speaker, Trent Horn.

On Monday and Wednesday, we talk apologetics and theology,

all the great ways to explain and defend the Catholic faith. But on Friday, we talk. and animal intelligence frauds, two famous cases.

That a lot of people think that animals, especially when you have domesticated animals,

they can certainly do impressive tricks, following commands, things like that.

But some people have claimed that there have been exceptional animals

whose intelligence rivals that of human beings, but it turns out when you actually dig deeper

into the stories that is not the case I'm going to share two of those examples with you

today so the first one you've probably heard of. That's the case of Hanabico, aka

Koko, Koko the Gorilla, Koko Sad.

So Koko the Gorilla was born July 4th, 1971 and passed away June 19th, 2018.

Coco was a female Western Lowland gorilla.

So Coco was born in the San Francisco Zoo, though lived most of her life at the

Guilla Foundation Preserve in the Santa Cruz Mountains.

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