Welcome to the back power users.

I'm David Sparks and joined as always by your friend of mine, Mr. Stephen Robles.

Hey, Stephen, how are you doing?

I'm doing well, David.

How's it going with you?

I'm doing great, Stephen.

I'm happy to have some old friends and some new ones here.

Welcome to the show, Brett Terstra and Christopher Gambray Wallencheck. Yes, it's good to be here. Welcome to the show, Brett Terbstra and Christopher Gambray Wallencheck.

Yes, it's good to be here. Yeah.

Guys, you guys built a business together called Barren Glass. And as soon as I saw it, we thought,

we got to get these guys on Mac Power Users. For folks who don't know, Brett Terpsra,

he is in the Jacket Club of the Mac Power Users. Brett, I don't know, Brett Terbstra, he is in the jacket club of the Mac power users.

Brett, I don't know how many times you bailed me out, like when Stephen or Katie couldn't make it and you came in and just blew us away with some cool automation tricks.

But you and I have, I think, recorded the most shows together without the other co-hosts here than probably any other guest in the show.

What an honor.

Yeah.

I mean, I said you get the jacket, man.

And Christopher, you and I are new friends, but you and Brett have been building something together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I've been a fan of Brett's for a long time as well as yours, so it's great to talk to you today.

And yeah, I realized around last year that there wasn't really a business that do the sort of nerdy stuff that we love to do, but for businesses, as opposed to

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