840: How Are You Not Seeing This?
This American Life
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4.6 • 88.8K Ratings
🗓️ 15 September 2024
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
People trying and struggling to see what another person sees.
- Prologue: Guest-host Tobin Low talks to comedian Tig Notaro about a jarring ride to school with her son. (6 minutes)
- Act One: Producer Aviva DeKornfeld heads to the Calgary Stampede to watch as men try out a machine designed to simulate menstrual cramps. (15 minutes)
- Act Two: A man can’t seem to see anyone in his life for who they really are, plunging his life into chaos. (18 minutes)
- Act Three: Senior Editor David Kestenbaum hears about a way to save some money and help save the world. All he needs is a little help. (5 minutes)
- Act Four: Marie Phillips reads a short story involving an aloof friend, a goose, and some extreme gardening. (7 minutes)
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| 0:00.0 | A quick warning, there are curse words that are unbeeped in today's episode of the show. |
| 0:06.4 | If you prefer a beeped version, you can find that at our website, This American Life.org. |
| 0:12.0 | From WBEZ Chicago, it's this American Life. I'm Tobin Lowe in for Ira Glass. |
| 0:19.0 | You may have heard of comedian Tignetaro, but if you're a gay person like me, you have really heard of Tignataro. |
| 0:25.8 | She is what I would call gay famous, which makes the story of what happened to her so surprising. |
| 0:32.2 | She and her wife Stephanie have two kids, twin boys. |
| 0:35.0 | And after seven years of living in the same house with Stephanie and Tigg, |
| 0:39.0 | having their two moms tend to every meal and butt wipe, |
| 0:42.0 | seven years of the boys telling their teachers and |
| 0:45.4 | random whoever is that they have two moms. They're all in the car on the way to |
| 0:49.5 | first grade one morning. Stephanie and I were just in the front seat talking and they were in the back seat talking like we always do and then |
| 0:59.5 | Stephanie said something about us being gay and our son Finn leans forward and pokes his head |
| 1:07.6 | between us and he's like he says, you're gay. We were like obviously just as shocked as he was. We were like, |
| 1:18.0 | obviously just as shocked as he was. |
| 1:22.0 | We were like, yeah. And he said, what's gay? And that was a whole other level of stunned. |
| 1:32.0 | Oh my gosh. |
| 1:34.0 | How is this information only just now coming out? |
| 1:40.0 | Tiggs been with her wife for over a decade. as far as they knew they've been gay for the entirety of their children's lives. |
| 1:47.0 | But apparently it was news to Max and Finn. |
| 1:50.0 | Then I started to feel insecure thinking, oh my gosh, here he's lived seven, over seven years, not knowing he had gay parents. |
| 2:02.0 | What if he's upset now? |
| 2:05.4 | What if he doesn't like his life or his family |
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