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The Tim & April Show

84. Prophetic Lies: The Shawn Bolz and Bethel Church Scandal

The Tim & April Show

TNE Media

Politics, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Tim Whitaker, and April Ajoy engage in a deep conversation with Promise Backlund, a former worship leader at Bethel Church, about the recent scandals surrounding the church and its leaders. They discuss the beliefs and practices of Bethel Church, the impact of the Wake Up Olive incident, and the allegations against prophetic figure Shawn Bolz. Promise on Instagram | @Eve_wasframed Chapters 03:02 Exploring Bethel Church and Its Beliefs 09:06 Sean Bolz: The Prophetic Figure and Allegations 14:47 The Response from Bethel Church Leadership 20:55 Celebrity Culture and Its Effects on Faith 27:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a new evangelicals production.

0:13.0

The Tim and April show, where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.

0:22.6

Hi, everybody.

0:23.7

Welcome to another episode of the Tim and April.

0:26.5

I am April, Ajoy.

0:28.2

I'm Tim Whitaker.

0:29.8

These pre-record episodes are always weird

0:31.5

because we don't have like a specific start time.

0:34.9

Yeah.

0:35.2

So we're just like, go ahead.

0:36.6

I just say, I'm recording. Start.

0:39.3

I'm always like fixing my hair. Anyway, welcome to the show. We, I think we just dive right into it

0:47.4

because we're going to take a break from the abuse of our government to talk about the abuse of the

0:52.7

church.

0:55.5

That was good.

0:58.6

It's proof that you have a master's in journalism.

1:00.7

It's obvious because you do this all the time.

1:02.0

You have these amazing little segways.

1:03.0

Brilliant.

1:03.9

I agree.

1:05.1

Well, thank you.

1:07.0

From one abuse to the other.

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