Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters.

Today's episode is a tough one, to be honest.

In the aftermath of a speech that Elder Jeffrey R. Holland gave recently to faculty and

administration at BYU, we tried to explore and understand why the message created such

a firestorm.

Among other things, this speech raised a new, the church's long-standing challenge in dealing

with LGBTQ issues.

Don't worry if you aren't familiar with this speech.

We give a little more context once the discussion starts, and the full transcript and video

of this speech are available on the church newsroom website.

Most of the work that we do in this podcast, and it faith matters generally, is to provide

a forum where difficult issues can be honestly explored in expansive ways, through real

dialogue and understanding and in a spirit of generosity, and that can be really tricky

to do on topics that seem particular we polarizing in raw, and we definitely don't always

do this perfectly and we're sure we didn't in this episode, so we really appreciate

the grace that we hope that you extend as we navigate this territory.

As conversation partners, we brought on Patrick Mason and Tom Kristofferson, both of whom

have been close friends and advisors to faith matters for a long time.

We felt like their perspectives would really help to round out both the theological and

the personal aspects of this issue, and we weren't disappointed.

We found their insights both realistic and reassuring, and as always, they modeled

a gospel and a church that we're proud to be part of.

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