It's actually very weird what I'm going to say, but I want to get to a billion plus dollar exit,

not because I care about the dollars. Like, my life is not going to change at all, but it's the

scorecard that exists for the value I can deliver to this world and that's the next step.

So for me it's driving towards that like what are the decisions over the next 10 years that

pushed me towards that direction and this doesn't have to be a short term goal

this can be a long it is a long that to me is the driving success.

Yeah yeah welcome to another episode of the founder podcast today I have Mr

David Houser. David was the founder of Grasshopper who eventually sold off. He bootstrapped this thing and eventually sold it off for $175 million to Citrix, a publicly traded company.

Welcome to the show David, excited to have you.

Thanks, Chris, for having me.

Yeah, it's going to be fun.

So let's dive in and talk about selling businesses. I think this is a thing that there's not a lot of information out there. In fact, when I've talked about it on other podcasts, as a guess or whatnot.

A lot of types of people are like,

like what is going on?

So I'd love to pick your brain.

You've had the opportunity to sell,

how many businesses at this point?

So I've probably sold now five or six different businesses a

variant size. Grasshopper was definitely the largest exit. But if you think

about it, like they've all gone through the same process and luckily we had a lot of key

learnings there we've now applied across those sales. So tell me tell me about

like that first one like first of all who held your hand and made sure that you did it properly because I think that's one thing that most entrepreneurs struggle with if they've never done it before it's like how do I go about it am I going to get screwed like what what's the actual process? And so walk us through that first one.

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