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Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

Hello, this is Paul McKenna, and welcome to the positivity podcast.

My objective is to interview the most interesting people in the world,

and in the next 30 minutes, get insights and even discover how it is that they do what they do,

what makes them unique and fascinating, their success mindset,

and certainly what keeps them positive.

My guest today is a choreographer and theatre director of numerous West End and Broadway

musicals, films and TV shows. She's worked with legends such as Elton John, Diana Ross, Tom Cruise and Clint Eastwood.

She's most famous as a TV judge on shows such as Strictly Come Dancing and So You Think You Can Dance.

I'm talking today with Arlene Phillips. I've always been, make a decision, follow that path and

drive yourself there. You face rejection every day.

Something is going to hurt.

You're going to face rejection.

You need to give yourself a little bit of time

and then you need to get up,

find a place to put that away and move forward.

Take care of how you speak to people

because words have a tone to them

and you have to make sure

that the words you say don't have that tone

that hits people in the heart.

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