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#835 - Barry Katz

Serious Circus

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Society & Culture, News, Religion & Spirituality, Politics

4.3998 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Serious Circus, host David C. Smalley sits down with legendary comedy manager and industry insider Barry Katz for a deep dive into what it actually takes to succeed in stand-up comedy.
 
Hear behind the scenes stories about Chris Rock, Katt Williams, Dave Chappelle, Jerry Seinfeld, Dane Cook, and more, along with raw insights on:
  • Why most comedians fail to break through
  • The myth of “followers = success”
  • Why elite comedians obsess over being undeniably the best in the room
  • The difference between talent, work ethic, and true greatness
  • How comedy careers are actually built (and destroyed)

From backstage with Jay Z and Beyoncé to lessons learned from decades in Hollywood, this episode breaks down the real rules of entertainment success—no filter, no fluff.
 
Barry Katz is available at:
Instagram: https://instagram.com/barrykatz
Website: https://barrykatz.com 

David C. Smalley:
Instagram: https://instagram.com/davidcsmalley
Website: https://davidcsmalley.com 

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our minds are so they lie to us all the time they're always lying to us and if you look at your

0:06.6

mind as like a 100% pie the degree of your success relies on how much you push the negative

0:18.8

into the smallest percentage of your brain and you keep the positive the most

0:24.6

and the people who who suffer and don't do as well are the ones that let the negativity take over

0:32.6

more and more of their brain and doubt is the greatest dream killer.

0:40.3

I don't agree with any of this.

0:43.3

My guest today has helped shape the business of modern comedy.

0:47.3

He's a true industry powerhouse.

0:49.3

He's managed and developed legendary talent like Dave Chappelle, Louis C.

0:53.3

Dane Cook, Bill Burr, Wanda Sykes,

0:56.0

Tracy Morgan, and Jay Moore, just to name a few. He was an executive producer of Last Comic

1:00.8

Standing as a major force behind specials, tours, TV deals, branding strategies. He now hosts his

1:06.5

own podcast called Industry Standard and provides coaching, consulting, career strategy for comedians,

1:12.7

creators, and entrepreneurs, widely respected Hollywood mentor. It's an honor to have in studio,

1:18.3

my guest, Barry Katz. Wow, thank you for that unrehearsed speech. I totally made it up

1:24.7

off the top of my head. It's incredible. It's the improv that you have there. Believe it or not, there were just notes and I did improv some things. One or two words, no. I remember we first talked a while back. You were doing a blueprint thing. Are you still doing that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have. I always tell anybody to listen, my biggest strength is my biggest weakness. I love doing everything.

1:46.6

Why am I here? It's Sunday night. It's 1146 at night on a Sunday night. Yeah, thank you,

1:53.1

Danny, by the way, for being here for that. Why am I here? Yeah, why are you here? I'm here because I love, I love

1:59.4

comedy. I love trying to make a difference.

2:04.3

If I can make a difference in any way, if I can say something that can help somebody.

2:08.7

So I have this blueprint program, the industry blueprint.

2:12.8

There's a thousand people in the community.

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