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Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

834 | Night Mousing for Trout with Kyle Glass - Trophy Trout, White River, Trout Trap Flies

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast

Dave Stewart

Hobbies, Leisure, Wilderness, Sports

4.7530 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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#834 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/834

Presented By: Jackson Hole Fly Company, Intrepid Camp Gear, Stonefly Nets, Patagonia

Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors

Kyle Glass (Trout Trap Flies) walks us through the strange, rewarding world of night mousing and trophy brown trout. He explains why big browns often feed at night, how tiny mouse imitations (the "Minnie Mouse") can out-fish giant patterns, and why glow tabs and glow lines are mainly tools for the angler—not bait for the fish. Kyle also breaks down his typical gear (6-wt setups, 9-ft rods, Maxima leaders), the logistics of night guiding on the White River, and how to present mice for the highest conversion rates (dead drifts with fast retrieves and deliberate pauses).

#834 Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/834

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0:00.0

He's an Idaho guide who spends his night's designing flies that push the edge, patterns meant for fish that feed when most anglers are asleep.

0:10.0

His creations have shown up from the still waters of Pyramid Lake to the flooded banks of the White River, each one refined through countless late night tests and broken leaders.

0:20.0

In this episode, we get into the mindset behind hunting trophy brown trout,

0:23.9

why mousing fish is more about precision than luck,

0:27.6

and how turning fly design into a business can stay fun without burning you out.

0:32.5

This is the Webfly Swing podcast where I show you the best places to travel to for fly fishing,

0:36.2

how to find the best resources and tools to prepare for that big trip and what you can do to give back to the

0:41.1

fish species we all love. Cow Glass is here to share what makes a fishery-produced giants, why the

0:48.2

smallest fly can be sometimes the deadliest, why you don't have to go giant always on the mouse

0:53.0

patterns, and how glow

0:54.9

lines and foam tabs that glow in the dark are a game changer for Kyle. All right, let's get

1:00.1

into it. You can find him at trout trapflies.com. Here he is. Kyle Glass. How you doing, Kyle?

1:07.9

Hi, Dave. Happy to be with you this morning. Yeah, yeah. We're always excited to talk big flies. Today we're going to check in on, you know, kind of mousing, tying some flies, talk about where people can pick these up and just maybe talk about how somebody might be able to find a trophy fish or even a decent size fish on a mouse. So yeah, man, does that sound good?

1:29.2

What are you up to this time you were in that October, November range? All over it. Yeah.

1:34.0

This time of year, I've completed my guiding for the year, which is mostly a summer thing over there in

1:40.3

Arkansas on the White River. I just got recently got back from a trip actually doing

1:46.6

some conventional fishing for tuna in San Diego. And before that, I was fishing Pyramid Lake

1:51.5

on the opener there. Oh, when was the opener? It's the first of October. Oh, wow. Yeah,

1:58.0

first of October. It's a different opener. You hear a lot of trout openers a lot of times during the spring. So, and now why is that? Why is it the backwards there? So it's water temperature base. They close it from, you know, July 1st through the end of September because the water temp at the surface gets over 70 degrees and releasing the trout gets really hard. So, yeah, it's protecting those fish.

2:19.9

Yeah, okay, cool.

2:20.9

So this is going to be good.

2:21.7

I think we're going to cover that.

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