Welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.

Hey everyone, welcome to the Council of Trend Podcast. I'm your host, Catholic

Answers Apologists and Speaker Trent Horn.

And today I'm going to be doing a review of a recent informal debate

that took place between Ben Shapiro and Alex O'Connor

on the question, is religion good or bad for society? Before I do that though, here is a question that needs no debate.

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All right, so this dialogue took place as part of the big conversation series on the

premiere unbelievable YouTube channel.

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I also want to say I was a little nervous for Ben Shapiro going into this debate.

I've debated Alex twice, he's a smart guy, he's British so that makes him sound extra

smart without even having to try, but he says really smart things. He's studied this issue a lot.

He's studied philosophy, theology, and he has experience debating different religious people.

Ben Shapiro doesn't do as many debates at least as Alex I don't think he does so I was a little concerned but I was actually pleasantly surprised overall I think Ben Shapiro did a really good job keeping the subject laser focused on the topic and showing the problems with

Alex's worldview. Keep in mind that the topic is an interesting one. Is religion good or

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