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Hello and welcome to Best Case Worst Cases. Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI Pro Filer writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today in studio is...

Hi Jim, it's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor and Jim. We have another special episode of Best Case Worst Cases. I feel like all our episodes have been special lately.

Well Francie, it's only because you're on it with me. Everyone you should see Jim Space, he does not mean this.

But we do have a very extra special guest today and that is... this is Bobbichakon, retired FBI Special Agent.

Well that is very short and sweet. Bobbichakon, he's had a very long career. We're grateful to have him discussing our next episode of Best Case Worst Cases.

Today we're going to cover a topic of breaking story in the news about a remote compound in New Mexico.

Yeah Jim and Bobbich and everyone watching, I'm sure you've seen the news this week where 11 children were discovered by the Tows County Sheriff's who went out on a raid to this remote compound in Northern New Mexico.

They discovered 11 children between the ages of 1 and 15 in what they called squalid conditions. They were all starving, they were dehydrated, there was no plumbing on the compound.

And they said they found a few potatoes and a box of rice and dirty water for the children to drink. There were several adults there that were all arrested for child abuse related charges.

And that's what started Jim and Bobbich the investigation into this case.

And I understand they also found one dead boy, somebody who was about three years of age.

They did, they found some very small remains buried on the compound. And I think one of the reasons that this has really reached the national consciousness is because it all started off in December in my home state of Georgia.

When a mother reported that her husband had taken her then three year old boy named Abdul Sirhaj, he had taken him out to the park supposedly and then never come back.

And the last time the boy was cited was presumably when the remains were found on the compound.

And I just should say that the shares have not officially declared that that to be Abdul's remains but I suspect it probably is.

So Jim let's start with you in this case. How does someone go from taking their own child to that child then ending up dead in the compound?

Well I think part of the problem here is we have to start talking about the circumstances.

These kids were being held in captivity. It's not that they were voluntarily there. They were being held against their will.

It still is unknown where these kids came from. Were they children that were all progeny of the five adults that they found there or are these kids that were abducted somewhere or runaways or something like that.

But to have kids who were from one to 15 years of age, what I've heard is that they were doing, they were training them and that this was a training ground for school shootings and other terrorist events.

Well that's right. And Bobby, part of what has really disturbed me about this story has been what I learned about the beginning of the case.

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