Why does John Wainwright have a Seattle building named after him after buying a book for $27.95 in 1995?

The answer to that at the end of the show. My name's Tom Scott, and this is Lateral.

Some people don't believe in coincidences, but I'm looking at my screen here and I can see the same

three faces that were in our last recording session two hours ago. What are the chances of that?

First of all, we have, from the depths of Wikipedia, Annie Rowder.

Hello, thank you for having me.

How are you doing in In the two hours.

See, this script has given away the secret here that we block record these.

If anyone haven't worked this out, how are you since the last moment of recording?

I'm doing well.

Yesterday, I was partying all day, celebrating the birthday, the 191 birthday of Jonathan, who is a tortoise, who turned 191.

He's the oldest living land animal.

We think we don't really know.

We don't actually know if yesterday was his birthday, but that's the day we celebrate.

I tell you, he throws a heck of a party, too.

I'm still hung over.

Also joining us, and apparently also slightly hung over, presumably from the last recording sessions parties. We have actress, writer and creator of Philosophy Tube and from the Kill James Bond podcast, Abigail Thorne. Hello, how's it going? I'm not really hungover. Also, has it only been two hours for you guys since we recorded the last session? I think your studio must be near a black hole or something, because for me, it's been 25 years, Tom. I've plugged the podcast this time. I forgot to do that last time. Do you want to talk through what's going on in that show? So me and my two best friends, Alice Caldwell Kelly and Devon run a podcast called Kill James Bond, where we talk about movies that have something to do with masculinity. We started with the James Bond franchise. We finished that. We did Rambo.

We've done Jason. talk about movies that have something to do with masculinity. We started with the James Bond franchise.

We finished that. We did Rambo. We've done Jason Bourne. We're doing Euro spy movies at the moment.

And at some point, we're going to probably move on to like Johnny English and Mission Impossible and stuff.

So any movies that have anything to say about like men and being macho, that's the job for three people, none of whom are male.

Have you killed James Bond yet? Yeah, we did. He dies in no time to die. We got his ass. We got,

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