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🗓️ 17 September 2019
⏱️ 75 minutes
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In our current political climate, it seems impossible to have a reasonable conversation with anyone who has a different opinion. Whether you’re online, in a classroom, an office, a town hall — or just hoping to get through a family dinner with a stubborn relative — dialogue shuts down when perspectives clash. Heated debates often lead to insults and shaming, blocking any possibility of productive discourse. Everyone seems to be on a hair trigger.
In How to Have Impossible Conversations, Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay guide you through the straightforward, practical, conversational techniques necessary for every successful conversation — whether the issue is climate change, religious faith, gender identity, race, poverty, immigration, or gun control. Boghossian and Lindsay teach the subtle art of instilling doubts and opening minds. They cover everything from learning the fundamentals for good conversations to achieving expert-level techniques to deal with hardliners and extremists.
Shermer and Boghossian discuss:
Peter Boghossian is a full time faculty member in the philosophy department at Portland State University and an affiliated faculty member at Oregon Health Science University in the Division of General Internal Medicine. He is a national speaker for the Center of Inquiry and an international speaker for the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science, and the author of A Manual for Creating Atheists. He lives in Portland, Oregon.
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0:00.0 | This week's guest is Peter Bagosian. His new book is How to Have Impossible Conversations, |
0:06.8 | a very practical guide, indeed. It is. I really enjoyed the book. It's a very kind of outlineish point by point, very useful practical |
0:17.1 | guide for not just debating God or politics or whatever, but just for talking to anybody. |
0:23.0 | So a lot of what I've been doing for the last 25 years, |
0:26.0 | I've kind of stumbled along |
0:28.0 | and maybe that's a third of the points in the book |
0:31.0 | and the rest was new, so really helpful on that we so we get into that we talk about |
0:35.9 | atheism and secularism politics social media and all this rather intractable platforms where it's very difficult to have a conversation. |
0:48.0 | So if you enjoy the podcast, please give us some support at Skeptic.com |
0:53.0 | slash donate or at Patreon. |
0:55.1 | Thank you and here is Peter Bagosian. |
0:57.1 | This is your host Michael, and you're listening to Science Salon, a series of conversations |
1:07.7 | with leading scientists, scholars, and thinkers about the most important issues of our time. |
1:15.0 | Welcome to the podcast, Pete, and congratulations on the new book. |
1:20.0 | It is How to Have to have impossible conversations a very practical guide indeed in |
1:27.5 | fact I was really happy to read this because a lot of the stuff is things I've kind of |
1:32.0 | developed by accident just by trial and error |
1:34.8 | in terms of engaging people from you know creationists and Holocaust deniers to |
1:40.6 | psychics and 9-11 truthers and all that. |
1:44.7 | And so it's nice to have, you know, in one package like here's how to do it and here's the research |
1:49.5 | showing why this works and that doesn't work, some of which I kind of figured out on my own, a lot of |
1:54.1 | which I didn't know, and gave me a lot of good stuff to try out. |
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