You know the line of billions where Bobby Axelrod is making a speech to all of acts capital and he says in the great expansive time we're already dead.

And that's something that i believe right if you look at the great expansive time we're not even a dot the dot is already over it's already in the past and so we may as well be super connected to the fact that we're here alive right now.

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Today i'm talking with writer and director Brian Poppelman who's the co-creator of the showtime show billions and whose film credits include rounders,

osam's 13 and solitary. We talk about the writing process pushing through fear, living a meaningful life, meditation and so much more.

Brian's ability to hone in on what really matters will have you thinking about your life differently. It's time to listen and learn.

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