Hi everybody, welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things, Sister and Abby and I are welcoming

back to the pod today, one of our favorite people to talk to in the whole world.

And I think she might be one of the whole world's favorite people to listen to because,

well let's just see, her name, you may have heard of her, is Dr. Brunei Brown.

Dr. Brunei Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston where she holds

the Huffington Foundation Endowed Chair at the Graduate College of Social Work.

She has spent the past two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame and empathy,

is the author of six number one New York Times bestsellers and is the host of the weekly

podcasts unlocking us and dare to lead. Brunei's books have been translated into more than 30

languages and titles, including dare to lead, braving the wilderness, rising strong, daring

greatly and the gifts of imperfection. Most recently, Brunei collaborated with the

Toronto Burke to co-edit, you are your best thing, vulnerability, shame resilience and the

experience. In her latest number one New York Times bestseller Atlas of the Heart,

which has been adapted for television and is now streaming on HBO Max, so good, she takes

us on a journey through 87 of the emotions and experiences that define what it means to

be human. Brunei lives in Houston, Texas with her husband, Steve. They have two children,

Ellen and Charlie. Today, her new series, Atlas of the Heart launches on HBO Max.

We have already seen it, so we now are smarter than you. But soon, you will catch up.

It's so freaking good, Brunei. Thank you for being here. Thank you for the gift of this

series. You've done it again. Oh, man, thank you. This is so scary for me. What is?

Yeah, and I like to do hard things, as you know, like if it's too a fault, like if it's not

hard, am I should I even be doing it? Yeah, but this feels scary. This is because I'm out

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