When you spend the first 12 years of your retirement, traveling the world full time, people want to know how you do it.

It's just the two of us. We're on the board of directors. We're on the task force. We're on the budget committee. It's just the same over and over and over again. And so you just have to get along.

I go the doodly way. He goes the straight way. And we end up in the same place.

Coming up, the senior nomads answer your questions for making long-term travel work for you.

We'll also check in with friends from Europe on some of what they've been talking about lately

and to hear what they expect from the European Union.

The idea of Europe, for me personally, really is people getting together, working together.

For me, Europe was the possibility of studying abroad.

Well, in Britain, regrets over there divorce from the EU remain.

Peace, prosperity and predictability.

Brexit has undermined all three of those things.

Come join us for the hour ahead on Travel with Rick Steves.

The world may be a lot of things lately, but boring, it is not.

Coming up today on Travel with Rick Steves, we've assembled another panel of friends from Europe

to tell us what

they've been thinking about and discussing in their countries, especially how they view

the ideals of the European Union as an increasingly divisive political climate gains

traction on their side of the Atlantic.

Let's start the hour with another visit from Debbie and Michael Campbell. We recently invited listeners to email us questions for them to learn more about how they

were able to experience the world, living as the senior nomads.

In 2013, Debbie and Michael Campbell kicked off their retirement by traveling.

They packed their bags and bought a one-way ticket to Europe.

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